Out Pastor: Having Undergone Conversion Therapy and Excluded by the Mainstream Churches, I Hope They will Embrace LGBTQ Lives One Day

Editor’s note (2026) · 編按（2026）
This page reproduces a 2021 Stand News interview with a a previous lead pastor of BMCC who is no longer affiliated with the church. References to him by name have been replaced with his role as lead pastor. The photo from the original article is retained.
本文為 2021 年立場新聞訪問之轉載；受訪者乃基恩之家前任主任牧師，現已不再隸屬本會。文中對其姓名之提及，均已改以「本會主任牧師」代替；原文相片予以保留。

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“When I saw men I would flick my wrist with a rubber-band so I would associate pain with sexual thoughts of men.” At the time of this 2021 interview, BMCC’s then-lead pastor was Hong Kong’s only out and gay pastor, recalling his conversion therapy experiences in his traumatic past.

Growing up in Malaysia where he attended theology school, a teacher attempted to put him through a course of self-inflicted pain. After a week of the so-called treatment his sexual orientation had not changed.

He developed depression and even contemplated suicide. He established an LGBTQ-inclusive church in Malaysia but was blacklisted by other churches, accused of working for the devil.

He continued to believe his identity and religion could co-exist. After many trials, he came to Hong Kong in hopes that one day every church in Hong Kong would embrace the LGBTQ community with genuine kindness and respect.

「睇到男人，就拎橡筋帶彈一彈自己手腕……將痛楚同你睇到男人有反應扣連，咁你就唔敢有反應，因為一諗到就痛。」

本會主任牧師曾為香港唯一公開出櫃的男同志牧師，談起昔日嘗試「拗直」自己的經歷，似乎仍心有餘悸。

他本身是馬來西亞華僑，在大馬讀神學時，老師曾著他嘗試「拗直」。手腕被橡筋彈足足一星期，他的性傾向卻絲毫沒改變。

他曾患抑鬱，甚至想過自殺。他在大馬成立同志友善的教會，卻被主流教會列入黑名單，被謾罵恐嚇，甚至被批評是異端、為撒旦工作。

但他仍然相信，同志身分與宗教可以共存，輾轉來到香港後，決心以牧師身份連結同志與教會，但願有天可以看見所有香港教會均對同志友善。